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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Feb 2, 2011 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

One of my colleagues (not a Deadhead) claims that he saw the Dead in 1966 when he was ten. Says his parents took him to a show at the Fillmore with Jefferson Airplane. I don't see any reason to doubt Walton. Plenty of young people go to rock concerts.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 6:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Yup--but, not so much back then. Think of the parents that had a kid in the early 50s; were those the sorts of parents that took kids to rock concerts?

Just sayin'; it's true today, but when I went in the early 70s, I NEVER saw a "kid"...when I went in the 90s to concerts, I saw lots of kids (like mine), but it wasn't so true back then.

Again, I believe him, and consider it misremembering if untrue (JK about "lying"), but it wasn't common for 50s era parents to take kids to shows in the 60s.

I was there, as a kid, and it was just not done, by and large.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 2, 2011 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

I drove from Delaware to San Francisco in 1968 when I was 7 to see my first show. I can't believe my Mom and Dad let me have the car for a week. I had to leave early because I had homework.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Feb 2, 2011 9:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

LOL! You must have needed a booster seat.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

No, just like Walton--MJ was 7'2" in 7th grade.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Feb 2, 2011 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Bastage!!
You could have swung by and picked me up on the way.
I only lived 4 miles away you know! The fact that I was still in diapers at the time is no excuse.
Just think how much cooler I would be today if I had gotten on the bus in '68 instead of '84.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 3, 2011 10:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

I think you were still peeing yellow in '68?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Just lie about it; we won't tell.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Feb 2, 2011 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Agree - it just wasn't cool or even allowed to have kids there, esp. in ballrooms/clubs where the smoke was dense. Then again - at Nassau Colieum in '79 - I took a joint from the person next to me - stunned to discover it was a 10-11 yr. old, he was definitely stoned, and no parents in sight.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

While I agree it wasn't really "done" then to take children to rock concerts, I'd have to disagree that it had to do with the smoking. (Smoking of whatever.) There was no concern to shield children from cigarette smoke then. It's one of the things that has changed dramatically since that forgotten world. Remember when adults blew smoke rings to entertain children? Many of my childhood memories (regarding adults) involve smoky rooms, and filthy ashtrays.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Yeah, I doubt that it was as motivated by health concerns (yes, I recall parents smoking and drinking, and taking drugs--valium was EVERYWHERE!--with kids all around to a FAR greater degree than most would admit, or condone today, that's for sure) as by the whole "counter culture biz".

IE, sure, they said "it's LOUD, and DRUGS are there, and FREE SEX is the message" but it wasn't due to damage to the ears, or someone OD'ing, or getting a STD as much as it was resistance to whole "WTF are these kids up to anyway?" and "it's just not 'right' for you to be exposed to this at 14!" rather than the kinds of concerns we appreciate today (re: health related).

Not trying to say our parent's generation were uncaring/ignorant sorts, but I do think their fears were motivated primarily along the cultural/political/social axes rather than health per se.

I would also qualify the "kids weren't there" with respect to siblings...ie, the only kids I met there, and by kids I mean ~ 15 and younger, were little brothers and sisters...those sorts of kids were sometimes present, esp by late 70s. But, I don't think I started seeing parents with their kids, like me, til the early 90s, and it's become increasingly common since, as S&R noted above.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

My first rock concert was Eric Clapton, in 1974. I was one of those younger siblings or actually younger cousin - I was allowed to go because I was "in the care of" my older cousins (and their druggie friends). hahahahahahahahaha - if my mother had known the half of it ... she had No. Clue. what would be going on.

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Poster: 219mid Date: Feb 3, 2011 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

The schedule at the original Fillmore was Friday and Saturday nights and Sunday afternoon, whihch would make it easy for kids to attend.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

But they were right it was loud. Concerts aren't nearly so loud now. I went to a number of concerts in my 20's where I couldn't hear at all the next day. We thought it was normal to slowly get your hearing back over the course of about 48 hours! I do regret that now, it seems idiotic.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Of course! Worst, by far, for me was Jefferson Starship...it hurt for ~ 48 hrs. That is DEFN a bad sign. Always had significant "ringing" (no pun intended) for that night/next morning.

Ironically, my work as a biologist exposed me to something as bad: a "chorus" of Great Plains Toads, the loudest (most intense) species in NAmerica, in which I was among a group of ~ 275 calling males, and my ears hurt for ~ 72 hrs...the ringing it left me with was unreal.

I for one am glad the concerts are quieter now.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 1:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Really, wow!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Feb 3, 2011 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

" Of course! Worst, by far, for me was Jefferson Starship...it hurt for ~ 48 hrs. "

ME TOO! Not the 70's version but with Casady and Papa John at least. But yeah loud and shitty sound and ear damage